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    This is our first annual on the 414 and I’m sure that I will have lots of questions but first one is

    1 – do both front (crew) seats need to come out?

    Thanks

    #96565

    Doug,

    Not sure what is required. Every annual at my shop, all the seats are out, including the pilot/co-pilot. And they don’t stop there either, all the floor panels come out too. I take a deep breath when I see it all exposed!
    Jim

    #96572
    quote DTHOMPSON:

    This is our first annual on the 414 and I’m sure that I will have lots of questions but first one is

    1 – do both front (crew) seats need to come out?

    Thanks

    The seats, carpet, floor board, after refreshment area/lav, all non-fuel access panels come out. They should have a good system of keeping these parts organized.

    Did they give you an estimate of how many hours?

    You might want to invest in a stainless steel screw kit for the non-structural access panels as the screws get torn up over time.

    The big “gates” are engine compression/filter (boroscope too), gear swings, corrosion inspection, exhaust inspection, brakes, cable tensions, windshield attach.

    The online store has the annual inspection checklist available for 10 bucks. https://www.twincessna.org/OnLineStore.htm The troubleshooting and owning a twin cessna guides are good too.

    I would suggest having them remove the battery and put it on a charger for the duration of the annual (as easy to drain it flat with lights, etc)

    Eric

    #96573

    As others have said, everything should come out. I’ve never seen an annual on any airplane where every seat and all interior components didn’t come out.

    quote EPANNING:

    The big “gates” are engine compression/filter (boroscope too), gear swings, corrosion inspection, exhaust inspection, brakes, cable tensions, windshield attach.

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    I would suggest having them remove the battery and put it on a charger for the duration of the annual (as easy to drain it flat with lights, etc)

    I believe later 414’s have the hydraulic gear – If yours does, I’d recommend testing the nitrogen blown down system as well. Bleed some air off of the N bottle so it’s not at full pressure and doesn’t put too much pressure on the system first, however.

    During my first annual I requested to be there for the blow down just to see how it worked (and we found the main N line had a hole in it!), and I also wanted to open the emergency exit just to see how hard it was to open.

    I also echo Eric’s point about the battery. It should be removed to inspect for acid leakage and corrosion around the batter box.

    Robert

    #96577

    At last! A flying video with good music! Have a bit of time on T28s, but our film normally showed things exploding, and were in black and white only.

    #96578
    quote RLORETTO:

    At last! A flying video with good music! Have a bit of time on T28s, but our film normally showed things exploding, and were in black and white only.

    I think we crossed threads here, but I’m OK with that!

    Can I ask where you had your T28 time?

    Robert

    #96586

    Thanks to everyone for there replies and great advice!
    I work with my mechanic so I’m pretty much done getting everything opened up. I figured that crew seats needed to come out but wanted to check before I got them out.
    So far all is going well 🙂

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